Comments on: Durban II Would Have Been Good Comedy, Were Abuses by the Self-appointed Arbiters Not So Appalling http://www.heatherrobinson.net/blog/2009/04/23/good-for-you-dersh-and-french-students-for-standing-firm-at-what-would-be-funny-if-it-were-not-appalling/ Journalist - Middle East Commentator Sat, 11 Feb 2012 01:12:32 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.3 By: Erik http://www.heatherrobinson.net/blog/2009/04/23/good-for-you-dersh-and-french-students-for-standing-firm-at-what-would-be-funny-if-it-were-not-appalling/#comment-23079 Erik Sat, 25 Apr 2009 04:19:51 +0000 http://www.heatherrobinson.net/blog/2009/04/23/good-for-you-dersh-and-french-students-for-standing-firm-at-what-would-be-funny-if-it-were-not-appalling/#comment-23079 <i>They are all afraid of the great Dersh when it comes to debates.</i> Yes. Almost all at least. Here is a classic: Alan Dershowitz debating Noam Chomsky on Israel and Palestinian issues at Harvard. In this clip, Dershowitz wins the coin toss and starts the debate with a 10 minute intro. He starts off discussing the history he and Chomsky share: turns out in the 1940s, Dershowitz was a camp counselor when Chomsky was a counselor at the same camp. Then he goes on to discuss the many agreements the two of them have on Israel and Palestinian issues. Then, he lays out the significant differences between the two and why they differ. He characterizes many of the differences as "attitudinal." See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zkmLTBe8p8 At this point, Dershowitz challenges Chomsky to agree on some fundamental principles to try to move the issue forward. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUl5cpluC2Q&feature=related Pretty good though Chomsky seems a bit tired and not really up to the debate. They are all afraid of the great Dersh when it comes to debates.

Yes. Almost all at least.

Here is a classic: Alan Dershowitz debating Noam Chomsky on Israel and Palestinian issues at Harvard.

In this clip, Dershowitz wins the coin toss and starts the debate with a 10 minute intro. He starts off discussing the history he and Chomsky share: turns out in the 1940s, Dershowitz was a camp counselor when Chomsky was a counselor at the same camp.

Then he goes on to discuss the many agreements the two of them have on Israel and Palestinian issues. Then, he lays out the significant differences between the two and why they differ. He characterizes many of the differences as “attitudinal.”

See:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zkmLTBe8p8

At this point, Dershowitz challenges Chomsky to agree on some fundamental principles to try to move the issue forward.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUl5cpluC2Q&feature=related

Pretty good though Chomsky seems a bit tired and not really up to the debate.

]]> By: Heather Robinson http://www.heatherrobinson.net/blog/2009/04/23/good-for-you-dersh-and-french-students-for-standing-firm-at-what-would-be-funny-if-it-were-not-appalling/#comment-23078 Heather Robinson Fri, 24 Apr 2009 19:43:03 +0000 http://www.heatherrobinson.net/blog/2009/04/23/good-for-you-dersh-and-french-students-for-standing-firm-at-what-would-be-funny-if-it-were-not-appalling/#comment-23078 Yep. They are all afraid of the great Dersh when it comes to debates. My personal favorite incident was after Jimmy Carter published his rant, "Israel: Peace Not Apartheid" and Dersh challenged him to a debate and Carter declined. The kicker was, Carter had claimed that the slanderous title of his book was intended to "provoke discussion and debate." Ha. Yep. They are all afraid of the great Dersh when it comes to debates. My personal favorite incident was after Jimmy Carter published his rant, “Israel: Peace Not Apartheid” and Dersh challenged him to a debate and Carter declined. The kicker was, Carter had claimed that the slanderous title of his book was intended to “provoke discussion and debate.”
Ha.

]]> By: Erik http://www.heatherrobinson.net/blog/2009/04/23/good-for-you-dersh-and-french-students-for-standing-firm-at-what-would-be-funny-if-it-were-not-appalling/#comment-23076 Erik Fri, 24 Apr 2009 04:54:49 +0000 http://www.heatherrobinson.net/blog/2009/04/23/good-for-you-dersh-and-french-students-for-standing-firm-at-what-would-be-funny-if-it-were-not-appalling/#comment-23076 Dershowitz is a good example of a very liberal attorney who is a strong supporter of Israel. He's a great debater and unlike most public figures these days, are willing to take on their adversaries even on issues I don't agree with him on. From Wikipedia: <i><b>2002 Harvard-MIT Divestment petition</b> In spring 2002, as reported later by the Harvard Crimson, a "petition, which calls for Harvard and MIT to divest from Israel and from American companies that sell arms to Israel, [and which] also calls for the U.S. government to stop supplying weapons until four specific conditions are met by the Israeli government," gathered over 600 signatures, including 74 from the Harvard faculty and 56 from MIT faculty members. Among the signatures was that of Harvard's Winthrop House Master Paul D. Hanson, who "signed the petition as a professor of Near Eastern Languages and Civilizations" and whom Dershowitz "publicly challenged...to a debate over the Israel divestment petition." But "saying Hanson had turned down his offer, <b>Dershowitz staged a solo debate in the Winthrop Junior Common Room [at Harvard].</b></i> I saw a debate once against with Alan Keys. Keyes didn't have a prayer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SS0jccFYBg8&feature=related Dershowitz is a good example of a very liberal attorney who is a strong supporter of Israel. He’s a great debater and unlike most public figures these days, are willing to take on their adversaries even on issues I don’t agree with him on.

From Wikipedia:

2002 Harvard-MIT Divestment petition

In spring 2002, as reported later by the Harvard Crimson, a “petition, which calls for Harvard and MIT to divest from Israel and from American companies that sell arms to Israel, [and which] also calls for the U.S. government to stop supplying weapons until four specific conditions are met by the Israeli government,” gathered over 600 signatures, including 74 from the Harvard faculty and 56 from MIT faculty members.

Among the signatures was that of Harvard’s Winthrop House Master Paul D. Hanson, who “signed the petition as a professor of Near Eastern Languages and Civilizations” and whom Dershowitz “publicly challenged…to a debate over the Israel divestment petition.” But “saying Hanson had turned down his offer, Dershowitz staged a solo debate in the Winthrop Junior Common Room [at Harvard].

I saw a debate once against with Alan Keys. Keyes didn’t have a prayer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SS0jccFYBg8&feature=related

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